Over a late-night burger, father and son were talking about the moment at hand when a teenage admission came to light.
Patrick Johnson, a freshman right winger for the University of Wisconsin men's hockey team, confessed he was nervous leading up to his debut in the biggest rivalry he's ever known.
Mark Johnson can not only relate, having experienced the passion play of facing longtime Western Collegiate Hockey Association antagonist Minnesota first-hand, but he can be proud of how those jitters translated into heroics.
Patrick fueled a dramatic comeback Saturday night, scoring one goal and setting up the other, as UW registered a 2-2 overtime standoff with the Gophers before a sellout crowd of 15,237 at the Kohl Center.
The 16th-ranked Badgers (11-10-5 overall, 7-8-3 with 17 points in the WCHA) followed up a 3-1 victory in the series opener Friday with an effort that vaulted them into a tie for fourth place with Minnesota-Duluth.
One night after picking up an assist and recording a plus-three, Patrick Johnson accounted for a power-play goal in the second period and assisted on the equalizer by sophomore left winger Aaron Bendickson midway through the third as the Badgers erased an early 2-0 deficit and extended their unbeaten streak to a season-best five games (3-0-2).
"Yeah, I was pretty nervous for Minnesota just because it's Minnesota," Patrick said matter-of-factly.
Patrick Johnson joined his father and uncle Peter -- who starred for UW as players -- and late grandfather Bob -- who coached the Badgers to three national titles -- in having at least one notch on his belt in this searing rivalry that includes 243 meetings and dates back to 1922.
It still hasn't hit Patrick Johnson -- the UW women's hockey coach's son who went to the homecoming dance at Madison Memorial High School in October and turns 19 in April -- that this is his life.
"Growing up in Madison, it's any kid's dream to play for the Badgers," he said. "Throwing on the jersey's unbelievable."
The Badgers got a huge point on a night when 17th-ranked Minnesota (12-11-5, 6-9-3, 15 points) dominated huge chunks of the action.
In addition to Johnson and Bendickson, UW got another high-grade effort from junior goaltender Shane Connelly, who was credited with 30 saves.
Badgers coach Mike Eaves said a combination of fatigue from back-to-back trips to Colorado and Alaska, the stressful start of second-semester classes and the physical nature of the series took its toll on his players. He gave them credit for pushing through the fog.
"We hung in there with our goaltending and our ability to bend, but not break and found a way to get back into it," Eaves said.
One night after a listless effort, Minnesota scored twice in the first period and controlled play for long stretches in the offensive zone. Left winger Ben Gordon converted during a 5-on-3 power play and center Mike Carman finished off a clever three-way passing sequence to provide the lead that wouldn 't be enough.
"I can't explain how many times we've had it in our hands and kind of lost it in the third period," Gordon said.
UW began its comeback in the second when, stationed in the right circle, Johnson one-timed a cross-ice feed from freshman right winger Podge Turnbull past goaltender Alex Kangas (24 saves).
It continued midway through the third when Johnson helped trigger an unusual scoring sequence. UW defenseman Jamie McBain and right winger Jay Barriball were locked up trying to control the puck at the left point.
"It was like a tug-of-war," Eaves said.
"The puck's just laying there," McBain said. "I just tried to make sure I kept Barriball away from it."
The duel was settled when Barriball kicked the puck toward the blue line, trying to clear the zone.
Except Johnson was there for a quick wrister that Bendickson -- who was elevated from fourth-line center to replace a tired Blake Geoffrion alongside Johnson and freshman center Kyle Turris -- redirected past Kangas while screening the goaltender near the hash marks.
"I touched it just a little bit," Bendickson said. "But, I mean, it was just a great play by Patty to get that puck to the net so quick. I was in the right place at the right time."